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Until we all as a collective of One ( smaller Oneness group or larger) come to think - speak - and act in contrast and equilibrium we are not going to achieve what we are looking for. There are still too many people who are either lashing out in fear or doubt as to what anothers position in this thing is and they are not yet prepared to accept contrast for what it is. In order to achieve we need that equilibrium and we are not going to get it by pushing away those in opposition to our message. I have already been to many Facebook chats and what not where the contrast and equilibrium is not permitted and the ones in opposition are continuously booted. That will not achieve our goal as this is not unconditional love but conditional love. If the opposition is going to reflect the conditional love we have to reflect the unconditional love and accept all opinions. Please pass this message along to all and everyone.

Saturday, February 28, 2015

We are much greater than God - Part 3

We are much greater than God - Part 3


According to the potential separation of points or simples - appearing to go out from Infinite Source as all things potential or possible  - a single and individual ruling love or affection begins the potential Circle of Life. All within this potential Circle of Life has it's own apparent and potential ruling love and affection forever guiding it in all of it's eternal existence - and it always takes on the form of a spirit and human being - being either of a spiral nature and form or of a vortex nature and form. Every form this point or simple takes on in it's Circle of Life is not simply experienced as one form or expression of it's apparent life ( all actually being potential and possibility) but it retains every body - form - shape - and sphere of life and existence it comes to manifest through its Conscious and unconscious beliefs and knowing throughout it's eternity existence.

Every point or simple that is Nothing - appearing forever to be made up of many myriads of somethings - will forever have as it's guiding and set ruling love and affection that ruling love and affection that it truly is ( according to potential and possibility) OF Infinite Source. The Infinite Nothing - or Source is not divided - nor is there ever found any parts of separation with Infinite Source - but all separation is given it's eternal appearances within conscious and unconsciuos potentials and possibilities that appear to come out from Infintie Consciousness - and all Nothingness which appears to come out from Infinite Source as well - even though we are confident that Nothing actually comes out from Nothing - in which case the Nothing or unconsciousness of Infinite Source must be duplicated as finite nothingness through conscious potentials and possibilities. 

Again nothing is actual - which means that the Infinite Nothing is the actual Source of all things appearing as something through It's every potential and possible abilities to manifest the illusions of something - not out of Nothing but OF Nothing - of Consciousness. Not within Nothing or outside of Nothing - but again OF Nothing. As each of you continue to move closer to Infinite Source in your apparent evolution of the human spirit you will come to know things it has appeared that you have forgotten - when in truth you have not forgotten them but have simply fallen so deeply into the unconscious manifestations of Conscious Self that you must take yourself back toward Source according to your own apparent ruling loves and affections which brought you where you are to begin with. That which appears forgotten is simply held in higher places of your true consciousness - as you are conscious at every level of existence - the nothing or unconscious counterpart presently takes the place of the conscious counterpart for a time - but nothing is ever forgotten - and all is temporary.

How can one human being or spirit come to manifest or create realities out of all potential and possibility and another cannot? Do you not all know that all and every potential and possibility is yours to manifest - and that all that is keeping you from doing so is you alone? Do you believe in unicorns - do you believe in space ships - do you believe in your possibilities to fly or hover above the ground as high and as often as you wish? Do you even believe you can change the molecular structure of one form to that of another? Of all the things in life you have come to disbelieve in - which can you comfortable say you could all of a sudden cause yourself to know these things to be actual potentials or possibilities - and then can you cause yourself to know that these are indeed potentials and possibilities which you can achieve in life - rather than simply believing or knowing that someone else has the potential to manifest such things?

You do not appear to manifest at will - but this is appearance only as all things are indeed manifested that go out through the human mind as consciousness - and are indeed formed through consciousness to appear as their intended body - form - shape - or sphere of one type of existence or another. You control the atoms - you control the animalcules - you cause the intentions of all uses and purposes - and in the meantime manifest every potential and possible manifested realities you seek out of ignorance of your true abilities - and therefore manifest many things within other timelines and dimensions that you do not believe to be a potential or possibility within your own timelines and dimensions. For something to simply be out of your sight - or out of the reach of your human senses is to be in another timeline or dimension of your existence.

When the human manifests from fear those things one truly believes to be potential and possible manifestations of ones fears are indeed manifested in their present timeline and dimension. When they are not manifested in ones present timeline or dimension it is because they do not truly believe such things to be a potential or possibility - even though they come to fear such things in the meantime.When one manifests from fear - and he or she truly believes in said potentials or possibilities ones fears are not always manifested because one doubts that certain outcomes are warranted or in line with ones present circumstances. There can always be potential and possibility of certain things becoming manifested but there is always fear or doubt that they may not be manifested in the present for ones self to witness - at said time. There are many principles that go along with the many outcomes of manifestation through fear and doubt - and all things are always in play with universal manifestation from one now moment to the next - and from one conscious reflection to the next.

Affections always play their part in manifestation for the human spirit - as affections such as anger - jealousy - hatred - vengeance - pride - prejudice - ego - happiness - sadness - boredom - depression - ecstasy - gratitude - spite - the will to rule and preside over another - seeking ownership or possession - and so very many more - as the list goes on and on. The fact that many human manifest outside of their own true ruling loves and affections - pretending to be someone other than who they truly are causes many things not to be manifested within ones own present timelines or dimensions.This is why we often state that one who is awakening to higher knowing and Self will come to gradually remember  that equilibrium of life must again be established and maintained before one comes to recognize these higher principles through even the smallest of manifestations in their new life that is to gradually come for each of us in our season.

Equilibrium of life is simply a state of consciousness where ones masculine comes to be in perfect agreement with ones feminine principle - and the masculine state of ones conscious being is no longer pretending to be someone other than who he or she truly is.Again all manifest at will - and all is indeed potential and possible to all once the human spirit comes to believe and know his and her true potential and possibilities in life. Consciousness creates ( according to what one would understand creation to represent) and because consciousness creates every time a human being comes to think  - he or she is manifesting one reality or another - one body - form - shape - or sphere or another - and whether or not it appears in and on your present timeline and dimension or that of another self is always within ones access or ability of each individual human subject.If you yourself do not believe something to be either potential or possibility in life you cannot manifest the reality - body - form - shape - or sphere reflected upon in any timeline or dimension - even though this is most certainly a potential and possibility for one or many of your other selves who reside among you or in those densities above.

Just because one comes to fear something in life does not mean he or she will come to live out or experience those things one comes to fear.We have explained why this is so - given that there are many variables that keep certain realities from ever coming in your path in life. There are things in a persons life that they have feared for the better part of their life - and yet they may never come to experience that which they fear will one day cause them harm or loss. At the same time ones fears can easily come upon them in life if all known variables are in place at the exact now moment in which said fears are manifested perfectly or in some version of said fears. One who is presently in equilibrium of life - is one variable which will keep one from experiencing certain fears in life - as equilibrium of life would completely keep one out of fear - and that which you do not fear can cause no harm or loss to self in many cases. However there are acceptions to every rule - and again we state that if enough variables are met anyone can come to experience that which he or she fears most or least in life.

Most all of human kinds experiences of harm or loss come from each individual human being leaving their place of equilibrium in life. Fears such as being poor - going without food and water - becoming homeless - being forced to go off to war when one does not believe in war - not having other necessities of life - or not having as much as one feels he or she is deserving of. In lower consciousness the human spirit is often in want - need - or lack in life - but this is not the case when one is drawing from higher consciousness.Within higher levels of consciousness one knows all one needs to know at any given now moment - and there are no expectation in ones daily life in those moments when the human host is indeed drawing from their higher levels of knowing - understanding - and consciousness.       


In life one can either wait on their collective consciousness to provide all things they truly love according to their already set ruling loves and affections in life - or they can think - speak - and act out in a physical manner so as to manifest that which they wish for - in which case they are manifesting out of season - separate from equilibrium of life.Indeed many things can be manifested by the human host according to physical principles and properties or actions but in doing so all things are manifested according to fear or doubt in most all cases - unless of course it is done out of human habit. In such cases there are things manifested out of habit that are of lower human principles and consciousness and there are things manifested out of habit that are of higher human principles and consciousness - and whether it is one or the other depends on whether or not the human subject is found to be in equilibrium of life - or not.  
 
Manifesting out of fear or doubt brings one to manifest out of season as we have stated - and in doing so the order of ones life according to his or her true ruling loves and affections in equilibrium of life and according to ones many seasons of higher consciousness are often thrown out of sequence. When ones life is thrown out of sequence  - out of equilibrium of life - and out of season harm or loss can often be the outcome because of fear or doubt being present.If one were simply prepared to accept the life they have presently manifested - remain content - and intend always on a positive outcome  - through higher Self - or the higher collective consciousness - all things would be provided - appearing out of chaos and having no specific order - and many new things would come to be experienced in life that did not come to be manifested because of ones previous fears and doubts.One often orders their way in life according to lower principles of their outer world and one does so often because they believe that anything they want out of life they must provide themselves through outer expressions or manifestation - when it is exactly the opposite.   
      
Most all of that which one does not see in life because of fear - doubt - and it's many offshoots of affections is ones true ruling loves - affections - and purpose or use in life - while most all one comes to see out of fear - doubt - and it's many offshoots is that which one does not love - is not of ones ruling loves - and is not of ones true affections which truly bring contentment of life. The human has many myriads of spirits guiding it in the wrong direction often - and it is up to the awakening human who is in the process of returning to equilibrium of life for him or her to draw in life from those spirits which are truly of ones ruling loves and ruling affections that bring contentment of life.


As we return to the subject of the Collective and Infinite Consciousness of the Nothing or Infintie Source let it again be known that Infintie Source is each of you without being in the process of separation and duality.You cannot manifest that which another Creator Source wishes to manifest or have manifested for them from some other Creator Source or human being. 


When another human being - another self in fact comes to you for help or aid in manifesting that which they believe they cannot manifest - it is a truth that it is they who manifest for themselves to begin with. Even when another does not come to you for help or aid - and you choose to manifest certain realities or experiences - bodies - forms - shapes - or spheres for their benefit it is not you who does the manifesting  - but merely appears according to your ego that you have manifested for them. Again no Infinite Source - no Creating conscious human spirit can manifest for another once separation is established and they have taken on individuality. This is a classic example of the masculine having left the house and home it once shared with it's feminine. This is a prime example of one who has left equilibrium of life.
        
Since this is the case - according to the levels of truth we have offered you here in this season of your life - can you now see how every human spirit comes to manifest for him and her self - and is simply in ignorance of higher truths - therefore manifesting lower truths - other or lower ruling loves - and affections not truly of their own - and therefore often manifestation is not witnessed that is in line with their own true ruling loves and affections in life.As one cannot truly manifest for another human or other self through the process of conscious manifestation - one can do so in a material and physical manner because you are of a material and physical existence upon the plane of third density or lower levels of consciousness.


Whereas material and physical manifestation is always limited to what each comes to own or possess in life - or the things one can buy - sell - barter - trade for - or acquire through other means such as theft or borrowing - it is all manifestation out of season and out of equilibrium of life.You have manifestation through chaos and manifestation through order - as your lower world is a plane of existence bound by order - regulations - set systems and societies of proper behavior - and the many laws of your world and it's many lower and separated societies.Manifestation through chaos is completely different in that one does not reflect on the past or future when thinking of what he or she wishes for - but instead one comes to reflect on the now only - and what he or she would enjoy in the present moments of ones life.  


For those who manifest within the now they are always content in the now and content with all they have at their disposal in the now - never wanting for more in the now but simply living life as it comes to them through all things truly manifested from higher Source or Self - not permitting lower self and lower levels of consciousness ( outside of equilibrium) to guide them in life any longer. It is true that the human who lives life in the now still wants for things that will cause their life to be more pleasant and fulfilled but they do not seek these things according to any kind of order or instant manifestation - as they know all things come in their season for the whole - and out of season for the individual.All things are indeed manifested instantly and at will for the human being ( or spirit) living in the now and in equilibrium of life - while still all things are shared according to one's present and true needs according to what is required to sustain one who is living in the now. Still again - what the lower human would call a need in life the higher human living in the now - and living for the benefit and good of the One or Whole of human kind would call it universal providence.  


It is one thing to want or need something in life out of service to self - and it is another to want something in life in service to others - those others simply being your many other selves who reside on your present lower world and reality of human existence. As the energies of consciousness can indeed manifest all things in abundance to as many human beings or spirits ever to be in the illusion of life if one does not remember how to share all things from higher planes of existence one does not tend to wish to share within their lower planes of existence. For as it is with the lower - so too is it with the higher ------ and as it is so with the higher so too is it the same with the lower. Do you not believe as of yet that your higher self can be just as wicked and self service as you are when representing the lower self? Do you presently hold the belief that all humans have the ability to one day become perfectly good and loving while removing all hatred - evil - darkness - and negative ruling loves and affections from their lives for good or for ever?


It is the evil and negative masculine principles that have guided human civilization from eternity as every human spirit comes to leave complete unconscious existence and evolve to levels of true understanding and knowing once again throughout eternity - and as a continuous and constant process for every human spirit ever to exist or hold consciousness.It is not therefore provided that any human spirit come to one day remember and again receive all conscious knowing of good and evil - love and hatred - or positive and negative ruling loves and affections that make up the collective consciousness of us all - both individually and collectively  (depending on ones level of apparent evolution of the human spirit) and proceed in putting off the one while possessing and maintaining the other.  


You all begin in complete unconsciousness in the now - and you maintain unconsciousness for the One and the Whole - as Unconsciousness is a part of you just the same as is the many myriads of levels of Consciousness. You are not one moment unconscious and at another moment conscious from and to eternity - but you are both - and you consistently or at any given time draw from one or the other so as to make up your many myriads of levels of consciousness to eternity. There is only one level of unconsciousness while there are and endless number of levels of consciousness - and both serve their purpose for the human spirit in the circle of life that we each live from and to eternity. While it is true that you each live or reside on every density or plane of existence ever to exist - it is only an appearance that  you presently reside on a single or individual plane of consciousness - as all other planes of your existence reside of ( not in) unconsciousness until you choose to draw from each or all levels of consciousness available to each of you without limits or numbers to eternity.


There is only One Infinite Source - and you are that One Source - while all others who appear to be other human beings or spirits are you. For every other manifestation of you in human form - no matter what the form appears to look like - a timeline or dimension is represented by each individual human form. When you move up in densities of your existence these forms that appear to be individual or separate come to return to your collective Self - and all forms are gradually - over many periods of illusory time - removed - and replaced with all things that return to your inner and higher Self. As this is the case with you personally so too is this the case with every other self on your world.They are each Infinite Source as well - and have experienced separation of Self in the same manner as you - and all will eventually return to them as well - wherein all their other selves ( including you) will return to their inner human and Higher Self - and again will become as One - and Infinite Source will again be known to Self as Infinite once again. Still it is an illusion that Infinite Source ( You) are ever to become one or Whole - as there is no Oneness or Wholeness with Infinite Source (You) but only Self.  


As you each lose the illusion of Oneness and Wholeness - you are awakening to Self and knowing Self  - more and more to eternity - therefore coming to know that there is no Something - there is no Nothing - but there is only Self which is neither and both "OF" Self and "OF" the Collective Consciousness of All Potential and Possibility from and to Eternity.


So you see fiends you cannot manifest for another simply because that other - those others - are you with their own levels of unconscious knowing - as you are Infinite in your manifesting other Selves - and You indeed offer - provide - or allot  (according to your Universal Principles and Nature as Self) the mere potential of individual consciousness to all of your other selves as Infinite Sources ( some say Creator Sources) and this providence that is truly "OF: Your true nature is Infinite - Eternal - and forever without end. As long as certain other selves continue to believe they are separate from Infinite Source (many call God) they must be permitted to do so. At the same time no matter how much or how often you seek to remind them or guide them toward these truths in life - it will make no difference until their season is at hand - and they each come to remember according to where they each began their illusion of life and separation from and to eternity.


Just as there are higher human spirits ( each a different ruling love or affection) that know who they are within the higher densities of our existence - so too is there a lower spirit representing each and every ruling love and affection that is already the makeup of all the ruling loves and affections found to be Infinite Source ( the lower the same as the higher but of different densities - levels of consciousness - and understanding of lower ruling loves and affections) . As no higher human spirit could ever have their existence in consciousness and unconsciousness to eternity if it were not for lower human forms of third density - so too is this the case with lower human forms possessing consciousness ( giving them the appearance of life) for those higher human spirits - to eternity.If the human form did not appear to possess consciousness ( as it is not truly possessed but shared) neither would the human form have life at all from and to eternity. 


You are the collective consciousness limited by your levels of consciousness in unconsciousness - and there need not be limitations in your life other than those you place on you self through beliefs held and traditions of mankind lived out through unconscious minds. There is a higher form of each of you and us that provides all things from a higher plane of your levels of consciousness. When you do not draw on this higher plane of consciousness you draw from lower planes. If you do not know you can do something or manifest a certain reality you cannot do or manifest it. Do you not know that there is every level of human spirit walking your world today - and many of higher planes do not connect with those of lower planes simply because the lower does not assume higher planes of consciousness - and the higher cannot lower themselves or conform any longer to lower forms of conscious existence. 


The higher representations of Self ( some may wish to term them higher other selves) do not rule your world nor do they attempt to rule your world - they do not hold positions in places of ruler ship nor do they seek to cause others of your world to submit to their will or wants in life. Again they cannot create for you of a lower level of human consciousness and even those of your lower levels of consciousness - sharing your material and physical plane as material and physical humans as well do not truly manifest for other physical humans - as this is a misconception. Those of higher planes of existence walk your world as their lower counterparts and simply provide higher guidance to their human host as he or she comes to evolve spiritually - taking on gradual levels of higher consciousness.The higher levels of your conscious self - who share the human host cannot cause other selves in other human forms to know things they offer to their present human host as all things are shared only with their present human host. What you as the lower human host can come to believe and know cannot be believed and known by other humans because they are not tapped into your collective human mind and consciousness. 


And so the higher human walks your world only in that it shares all things with it's lower host or counterpart - as it's human host and counterpart comes to awaken to higher beliefs and finally higher knowing through it's higher Self and higher levels of consciousness. Because of these higher truth's it is possible for the more evolved human who shares all things with it's higher Self - just as it's higher Self shares all things with lower self ( only with the awakened human subject) to manifest a world around themselves that adheres to the levels of belief and knowing of Self alone - while all other lower humans ( other selves) living around or among said awakened human being and host live their lives according to lower beliefs according to their season of life and existence. Though it is a truth that your many other selves on your world can receive higher knowing - it is received mainly through their own higher selves - while other awakened human spirits ( other selves) will sometimes be drawn to one's self through seeking higher guidance in life.


There are indeed many awakened human spirits robed in fleshly bodies and forms on your world who are of a much more advanced nature according to their being capable of drawing from their higher consciousness and guidance at will - but again they will not interfere ( once they have advanced to a certain level of their awakening) with the life and manifestations of their many other selves walking your world today.The rulers of your world [and the many individual societies that make up your world] are not of the group we classify as higher human spirits - as they are still in service to self and unconditional love for those who are their own. As it goes one must come to separate him or her self from the rules - order - and laws of human society - as well as those things which promote service to self within said societies before one is prepared to move forward in their conscious evolution toward reconnection with higher Self.


Service to self as it is truly understood by the higher human in an awakened state is different from the understanding of said affections in life of those found with lower third density humans who are of levels of third density lower consciousness.In short service to self is serving the flesh and the ways of the world as apposed to what appears in service to self when one is reflecting on the higher human and how he or she serves others through their serving their own self or human host.In other words there is true service to self found with the lower human and there is the appearance of service to self when the human being guided by higher self serves their own wants or wishes in life according to their hearts center or desires. Because the higher human knows they cannot manifest for lower humans  - other than their human host (which appears to be the third density human - but is third density in appearance only) they also know they are not to interfere with other selves ( other outer material and physical humans appearing separate from self) but are to live their lives serving self in order to truly serve others. 

As one can never serve others by thinking - saying - or doing for another self - as this would be manifesting for other Creator Sources and therefore taking them out of equilibrium of life - one can only serve others when higher Self is serving Self rather than lower self serving self.It would appear to all lower humans when witnessing the higher human serving Self ( though they will see them only as the lower human according to their human form) that the higher human is truly service Self - when in fact they are serving others. It can only be understood to be this way when one comes to awaken to higher principles - so as to truly understand that every human who lives outside the higher human ( all other outer material and physical humans) other than the higher humans lower human host - is every human spirit who resides within the collective consciousness of the higher human ( representing both higher spirits and lower spirits of ones spiritual society) who shares all things with their awakened human host - and who appears to be third density but is of higher densities and is only providing house and home for the higher spiritual society of the higher human.



Again as we have stated before - there are many higher humans walking your world today - providing the collective consciousness of - and life for - their own individual human host. They all appear to be material and physical third density humans when in fact the lower has become as the higher - and simply appears as the lower for the sake of all lower third density humans still in disbelief of higher principles. Because the lower third density human does not believe in or even understand higher principles of consciousness and understanding the lower third density human - having the same outer appearance as the higher human - will not wish to be in the company of - nor interact with or speak to the higher human. This can become a thing of loneliness for the higher human who is in the beginning stages of their awakening - but becomes much easier to understand and live with as the awakening human reaches a certain level of their awakening.



As the higher human can lower their levels of consciousness to that of the third density human so as to interact with them at said levels - this cannot be the case with the third density human rising to levels of the higher human.Still this process becomes more and more difficult for the higher human who gradually awakens to a state of consciousness in which he or she seldom wishes to return to third density levels of consciousness.When the higher human chooses to lower their consciousness to third density levels it is usually because they have friends or loved ones still residing in third density consciousness who they wish to continue to interact with - though many third density humans will eventually choose to separate from the presence of the higher human who represents a friend or loved one - in which case it will often be the lower choosing to separate from the higher and not the other way around.  



In most cases those third density humans who choose to remain in the presence of - or live with or near - those who are higher humans ( higher only in that their awakened state causes them to retain higher levels of consciousness) these humans come to receive guidance from the higher human and therefore begin their awakening process as well. It would not be this way in most cases with the third density human wishing to remain around or continue sharing company with the higher human unless the lower human was truly prepared to receive higher conscious understanding in life.Because it is indeed so very difficult for the lower human to continue in the company of the higher human - or even carry on a conversation with said humans - the timelines or dimensions are gradually separated and new realities are manifested for the higher human accordingly. This is not the case for lower third density humans not prepared or in their season to begin their awakening into higher principles of human conscious understanding - as the lower human will simply continue in their evolution of the spirit - and all things will appear just as before ( with minor changes through new timelines and dimensions) to the lower human until their season comes as well - so as to be prepared for their awakening to higher understanding and consciousness. 



It is a truth that just because the human comes to their season of awakening and takes on higher levels of consciousness - this does not mean they become good and loving humans - who do not choose to at times cause harm and loss to other third density humans. As there is an awakened group of higher spirits who indeed thrive on service to self and drawing energies from other selves they cannot serve self and maintain equilibrium at the same time or now moment. As far as those higher human spirits who are maintaining equilibrium (so as to hold levels of conscious knowing they would not otherwise hold) are concerned - if they allowed themselves to leave a place of equilibrium so as to cause harm or loss to other selves they too lower themselves to third density levels of energetic consciousness - and are therefore presently bound by third density laws - and will reap all things they intend or cause toward another in life. 



Once the third density human chooses to accept higher conscious knowing he or she has moved to higher densities of their conscious existence - and they are no longer the third density human he or she was a moment ago.Once entering into higher densities of consciousness and existence the human being or spirit is tapping into either service to self spiritual societies or they are tapping into societies that are in service to others. Both societies of human spirits are capable of lowering their consciousness levels back to that of third density - and therefore are again capable of interacting with and affecting the lives of other selves who are third density as well. The group that is in service to self will interact with and affect the lives of  other third density humans with negative intentions and in service to self ( pleasing the flesh and living according to the ways of the world) while the group in service to others will appear in service to self as well - but will no longer be seeking to please the flesh or live according to the ways of the world - nor will they seek to cause harm and loss to other third density humans - or other selves. 


As both higher groups of spirits can be helpful or harmful to the third density human - it is always according to the third density human as to which of these groups they choose to draw from in life - or which they choose to interact with and hold company with when they seek help or aid from such higher spirits ( still in third density human form). Because both groups of higher spirits are constantly being pulled back toward equilibrium in their everyday life - those in service to self and conditional love will fight against this pull more strenuously and frequently than those who are in service to others - and unconditional love. The one group in Sts will often wish to interact with and affect the lives of other third density selves (other physical humans) and will always act according to the good of themselves - while those in Sto will act only when their heart guides them to act - and only when discernment is exercised - so as to always decide what is best for their other selves (other physical humans) according to their hearts guidance - and not according to pleasing the flesh and acting according to the ways of the world around them. 


So you see whereas it appears both groups live their lives in Sts - it is only an appearance based on the understanding of the lower third density human consciousness. Therefore when another self comes to the human of higher understanding - (living life in their natural state within equilibrium of life) and seeks help or aid the human of higher understanding and in Sto will not always act in the favor of the one seeking help or aid - while if it is the higher human living life in Sts they will either help their other self ( another physical human seeking help or aid) or they will not - and this will always depend on whether their actions will benefit their fleshly cravings in life or will conform to the ways of the worldly systems around them.No higher conscious human being or spirit in Sts ever re- enters third density consciousness and life unless it is for their own benefit or happiness - while no higher conscious human in Sto ever re- enters third density consciousness and life period! 

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