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Message to those who are awakening!

Until we all as a collective of One ( smaller Oneness group or larger) come to think - speak - and act in contrast and equilibrium we are not going to achieve what we are looking for. There are still too many people who are either lashing out in fear or doubt as to what anothers position in this thing is and they are not yet prepared to accept contrast for what it is. In order to achieve we need that equilibrium and we are not going to get it by pushing away those in opposition to our message. I have already been to many Facebook chats and what not where the contrast and equilibrium is not permitted and the ones in opposition are continuously booted. That will not achieve our goal as this is not unconditional love but conditional love. If the opposition is going to reflect the conditional love we have to reflect the unconditional love and accept all opinions. Please pass this message along to all and everyone.

Wednesday, February 18, 2015

The guarantee of immortality

The guarantee of immortality!



As we do not much care for titles the following message is offered with one so as to attract those human spirits from within who would not have otherwise chose to read such works as there are many human spirits from within Self who do not as of yet resonate with our forthcoming message - but all things in due season it is often said. We therefore offer this message for those prepared to fully receive it as well as those prepared to partially receive it as the awakening of the human spirit indeed comes in many stages.

We are a spiritual society found high above you might say - within the realms of the collective consciousness of your Self. We appear higher just as each of you appear higher when each individual human spirit from within chooses to delve into what is often expressed as the higher planes of your human existence and collective consciousness. In truth nothing is higher just as nothing is lower - and every level of the collective human consciousness is always proper to the present levels of understanding and knowing for the human spirit that is forever in the process of spiritual evolution. We would therefore simply say that we draw our ruling loves and affections from societies {of - from - through - and for}  Infinite Creator Source that are closer in proximity only when reflecting on the collective consciousness alone - and that there is no true proximity - no true place - no true time - and no true expression for that which appears to separate us from each of you who may still believe you are actually separated from us.

You have received many guides throughout your many myriads of lifetimes as one human machine or another - and have taken to yourself much belief and much knowledge that has only appeared as belief and knowledge - when in truth each of you is the makeup of the One and Whole that is Infinite Creator Source ( all things without limit - without the need to believe - without the need to gain knowledge) - without any actual limits in your existence - and each of you simply sleeps for a season according to all things predestined and predetermined for all finite extensions of Infinite Creator Source - or Self. Without the finite and without set limits to your present reality Infinite Creator Source (Self) could not forever be the Infinite - the All - and truly be every potential and possibility to eternity - without end or limit. The limits however are not that which is created from Source but actually make up that expression ( essence and being) that is just as much Infinite Creator Source as are all things infinite and without limit as well.

Nothing is - nor can it ever actually be created of - from - through - or for Infinite Creator Source ( you or You) as all things simply are Infinite Creator Source (you and You). At the same time the masculine principle found to fill all human spirits ( the you) comes to act in that which some would simply call re- creation or duplication of all things coming from the feminine - of - from - through - and for Infinite Creator Source (You). The "Of" is Infinite Creator Source without limit - the "from" is the feminine principle which represents all knowing of Self with Infinite Creator Source - the through is representative of the masculine principle that is in constant re- creation and duplication from the feminine principle ( Infinite knowing of Self and self) while the "for" is all guidance and provided ruling loves - affections - bodies - forms - shapes - and spheres offered up Of Infinite Creator Source - from the feminine principle - and through the masculine principle of Infinite Creator Source. Just as all things are therefore provided to eternity for "you" so too are all things in the completed process and circle of life or existence and non - existence for "You" as well - the You being representative of Infinite Creator Source without limit. 

We tell you all these things in preparation for our present message which has already in fact begun. We would also add that Infinite Creator Source could not be representative of All things ( without limit) to eternity if in fact Infinite Creator Source had not already been every potential and possible reality - body - form - shape - sphere - and possible manifested truth and non - truth ever to be reflected upon or thought of by every human spirit ever to be re- created over and over again - and duplicated in the perfect image of Infinite Creator Source consistently and without end to eternity.

In other words if the human spirit could never be immortal ( without end or ceasing of life) and the human spirit - {which by the way is housed within every imaginable body - form - shape - and sphere} -  ( and re- created and duplicated over and over again to eternity) were ever to actually be created and then uncreated - given life and then that life taken away in death - then this would mean that Infinite Creator Source could not create in any way a being or duplicate of Self which is truly eternal and immortal - never ceasing to live and never ceasing to evolve indefinitely to eternity. At the same time if death were not forever a part of this process then Infinite Creator Source could not represent One which could cause another duplicate of Self - or simply another self to cease to exist. And so you see in order for all things to be possible to eternity realities of an infinite number would have to have their existence from eternity and would therefore have to continue to exist on in to eternity.

Nothing can have a beginning therefore just as nothing can have it's own end - if it were not for the fact that Infinite Creator Source is every beginning and every end of every potential and possible - body - form - shape - sphere - reality- and potential manifested truth ever to come into the mind of all who possess consciousness or thought on in to eternity. If this process were to ever cease or pause even for a moment All would never have been - and this cannot be possible as "WE" and "we" are here. But now lets look at this subject from another angle if you will - where many or some few conscious human beings do not believe Infinite Creator Source ( or some God) to be All things - to be Omniscient - Omnipotent - and Omnipresent.

Indeed there are realities - timelines - and dimensions of the evolving human spirit where these scenarios are a possibility - a potential - a belief - and even a truth or fact as it could be no other way in order for Infinite Creator Source to be All things from and to eternity. It is also a fact or truth that these potential realities must continue to be re- created or duplicated over and over again from and to eternity for Infinite Creator Source to be as it is supposed at this day or season - by many. Still there are those groups on your world - {and they have been in existence from eternity - in days gone by as well as in the present} who would say that mankind is as a leaf blowing in the wind - here one day and gone tomorrow  - never to be seen or heard of ever again at the point of death.

If this scenario were ever possibly the case we offer you each this idea to ponder -----

Where is mankind's history - where in the collective minds of human civilization - has it ever been proven or even understood that the consciousness found to provide life to the human machine resides in time or place - or that it can even be appointed its own body - form - shape - sphere - or truth's which can explain to the finite human spirit - or the infinite human spirit - where it resides - when it resides - or whether it has ever been created with it's own beginning or end by any human spirit or form ever to exist from eternity - or within the grasp of mankind's limitations of time or space?

In other words friends we ask you to ponder where it is you each receive your consciousness from - and if you do not suppose that said consciousness would have to cause one to reflect on a thing which truly appears to have no beginning and no end - other than it's one limit in and on your world - which is that it appears to reside within the human machine where in each case a living being appears to hold or possess said life. As your many scientists have offered their theories at the present day on your world - theories that say consciousness is found in all forms of matter would it not make sense that all things the human truly knows to exist comes from this consciousness found to reside somewhere - but where in fact no one can explain as of yet - yet we offer the explanation to you all here and now.

As we proceed to offer our explanation on the origin of the collective and individual consciousness of all things known to mankind - we ask you all to ponder on this one thing or idea. If all things come from something that is Infinite can they be any thing other than infinite as well? Surely we know that something which is finite has only finite things coming out or from it which are finite as well - and in fact nothing coming out of or from that which is finite can be anything other than finite - having both beginning and end - without the possibility of ever becoming infinite. Again nothing of a finite nature can ever wish to become of an infinite nature - otherwise it would have to have been infinite in it's original state - essence- or being. Again we could not even use the terms original or origin as this alone implies coming out from or of something else. Because something coming out of or from something that is finite is proof that there is a beginning - all things which have a beginning must therefore have an end - is this not so?

In order for any human being - spirit - or conscious person to ever prove that something infinite could ever come out of or from something that is finite - one would have to be infinite in his or her nature - essence - and being - would they not ( so as to be there along the way to witness if there is ever an end or cessation to that which was though to be infinite). Therefore we offer you this statement ---- whether something is infinite or finite in essence - being - or nature it can never be proven by one that is finite - and can never be proven by the infinite as well simply because there is no one else there in infinity where proof would ever have to be offered to.

How is it possible therefore for Infinite Creator Source to know Self - to know It is infinite and Eternal - to know It has no limits whatsoever - and to know that It is All things from and to eternity? We truly wish to move on to our explanation on consciousness - but all things must first be offered in season - according to the spirits who provide our message - and so we continue ------

Every human spirit or being ever to live or exist that resides on the plane of third density - on the plane of timelines and dimensions of self see's him or her self as finite according to his or her human body or machine - and where as some believe even the conscious mind to have it's end one day there are many of those in days gone by - and even in your present day - who believe the body to be finite while believing the consciousness to be infinite and eternal - a thing unexplainable at present but miraculous in the way it serves it's use or purpose for the human machine in giving it life. 

Because the human being or spirit does indeed represent that finite part or portion of Infinite Creator Source which appears to have it's many limits in it's existence the human being and spirit is drawing from their rational mind. By drawing from one's rational mind one comes only to believe in life that which appears rational or logical - based on physical laws of nature. Each of your plane of reality is therefore limited by their own thinking and their own beliefs in what is finite and what is infinite. They believe only that to be infinite which they cannot explain according to the rational mind - through science - physics - miracles - and even what appears to be works of magic.

Therefore they are afforded their beliefs according to universal principles - principles which provide that one is never given that which one cannot endure - understand - believe - or explain  - and all are given that which they believe to be true potential or possibility - which in turn causes each to move to the necessary density of the collective consciousness ( still their own personal consciousness) - so that all which they come to believe - that which appears to be impossible or improbable to others in and on ones world - or within ones present timeline or dimension- in which case said human being or spirit is moved to the appropriate timeline or dimension in order to have access to their proper density of the collective consciousness - in order to manifest all appropriate things which are new to said human - but truly accepted as potential and possibility.

That which is finite cannot ever understand or explain that which is infinite - nor could that which is Infinite ever be capable of explaining to the one who is finite all things Infinite - as it would be like the Nothing explaining to a something that the something came from the Nothing. That which is Infinite knows It is Infinite simply because It is pure conscious knowing and fills all things with It's consciousness - therefore having no limits or boundaries to prove different - no thing having access to information which would or ever could disprove that the Infinite is ever any thing other than Infinite in essence - being - and nature.

Because the Infinite knows Self and knows It has never had a beginning - nor has It ever had anything or another Nothing ever cause It to be limited in any way. That which is Infinite and Eternal knows it is Infinite and Eternal because It resides "AS" all things Infinite and Eternal and one could therefore say that Infinite Creator Source is Eternity - and is presently there in Eternity keeping Eternity eternal. If One were not there in eternity One could not know it was Infinite and Eternal as One could not bear witness that Eternity even exists. Because time and place or space have no bearing on eternity it is not required that Infintie Creator Source be in any time or place in order to reside in or actually be Eternity and Eternal. One that is truly all things holds all keys to every kingdom in existence as well as in non - existence - and is truly the most pure essence or substance ever to be known or ever to be imagined.

If it were even possible for something to be outside of Infinite Creator Source it would have to reside outside of consciousness - outside of Infinity - and would therefore never be a possibility. If one could ever find or imagine something or Nothing which is more pure than the Infinite and Eternal Collective Consciousness one could never again imagine or argue the fact that Infinite Creator Source is indeed Infinite and Eternal - as there would then be an inside and an outside of Self ( the Infinite and Eternal Collective Consciousness) providing therefore limits to the Eternal and non -limited Self which once was believed to be the origin of all Somethings and Nothings ( as well as somethings and nothings) to and from Eternity.

To attempt to understand or imagine any limits whatsoever over Infinite Creator Source - binding said Source to any one reality or essence - being - and All knowing of Self - would be to admit - according to one who is finite - that  there is nothing truly known which can possibly be Infinite in Nature - principle - essence- being - and substance as long as one remains limited by it's finite illusion of reality. . All of these attempts ( to disprove  Infinite Creator Source) - which have been carried out by finite human beings from as far back as any human being could possible hold witness to - have been made by finite beings who hold no witness to the Infinite - and will forever continue to guess and ponder on the Infinite until such time or season as the finite once again truly comes to know of their Infinite nature - essence - being - principles -and Self - and these finite humans will forever continue to guess until proper knowing is once again provided through the natural process of human and spiritual evolution.

Because the Infinite is truly Eternal and never ending It truly knows and understands what it is like to have no beginning or end - no limits whatsoever for that matter - but can never actually share such information with a collective or individual duplicate or re- creation of It's Self - to eternity - as long as Self is self - the pure is partially corrupt or diluted in any way - as that which is mature in nature cannot ever share adult things with one who is still in a childlike state of mind and consciousness - and cannot understand or fathom what is Infinite until each childlike mind comes to once again return to being Self - therefore no longer seeking access to that which is known but rather all things which are of the unknown.

One would think that one must forever continue to seek out that which is known so that one would eventually come to know all things just as they believe All things to be known of - from - through - and for Infinite Creator Source. Do you not see dear friends and fellow other selves that even to know something limits ones spheres of existence - as does every sphere which allows one to have the appearance of life or existence in a vacuum of illogical - conditional - unconscious - and child like beliefs of all finite re- creation - duplication - and apparent offspring of the one which is truly Infinite and Eternal - as far as the finite human spirit is able to prove on in to eternity?

Yes we tell you now and we have spoken these transmissions to many myriads of other selves from eternity - over and over again - and we say to you here in this present season that Infinite Creator Source truly knows all things pertaining to It's Self - and It knows nothing which pertains to It's Self in this same breath - so that all things known by the masculine and finite duplicated Image of Self must first be removed in order for One to return to the Infinite Self which truly represents the Nothing - truly represents the complete absence of knowing - and represents the true and complete non - existence of something. We will attempt to explain further ------

As long as there is a something - as long as there is substance which can be taken from and therefore limited in one manner or another - one remains finite and limited in it's existence. It is limited by the Nothing and it is not limited by the Nothing in other words. Another way of putting it is that if one comes to know all things - or be all things - or can truly be in all places just to mention the word all implies that the door has been closed and nothing more is to be found - to be known - to be as something - or available in order to allow one to be in another place. Therefore one could only come to be Infinite through that nature of - from - through - and for Itself which is indeed finite. The finite is the only limit to the Infinite and the Infinite is the only limit to It's finite.

Both the Infinite and finite are limited and both the Infinite and the finite are not limited - as it can be no other way in all actuality.

To be nothing ( or Nothing) however is truly and completely without limits - right?. Therefore that which is Infinite must be Nothing while that which is finite and allows for the Infinite ( unlimited existence and non - existence) to truly be possible is all things which are something and limited. Another way of putting it is that the Infinite is forever dependent on the finite in order to sustain It's existence and non - existence while the finite is forever dependent on the Infinite in order to continue to sustain that which is finite - and both to eternity. Still we see that some of our audience made up of our many other selves do not yet understand our words in full - so we will continue to explain.

That which is Infinite is not enclosed or bound by anything according to It's essence and non - being or it's non - essence and being. At the same time that which is finite is not enclosed or bound by anything in truth or in it's original state - as it is not found to come from - reside within - nor is it really created - re- created - or duplicated   
but is Infinite as well - indeed it must be Infinite and finite from and to eternity. The Infinite is only ever limited by Itself while the finite as well is forever limited only by itself - whether in a state of consciousness where it believes itself to be finite or if It Knows Itself to be Infinite.

That which is Infinite knows nothing while that which is finite knows all things - that which is Infinite Is Nothing - is not in any place - and has no power or ability over anything that is finite - anything that is something -  anything that is conscious or holds one state of mind or another - anything found in finite time - space - or place. That which is Infinite is Conscious of Nothing and can truly only know Self of - from - through - and for it's finite. And so dear friends when you have each thought things were forever one way - we have gone and turned it around for you so as to completely be seen as being another way - and it is up to each of you to take things from this point on - though we will indeed come again to those who call upon us to further their evolution of the human spirit - in one time or in ones season - as many new things are sure to come for each of you. Keep an open mind dear friends - and no longer limit yourselves to any one individual life - but rather remove all things you have been given in days gone by and truly come to know your true potential and possible access to things not known for many seasons. "WE"

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